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Arnos Park river restoration project

17 Jul 2024 23:20 - 19 Jul 2024 00:19 #7197
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Enfield Council is inviting residents to participate in an engagement event on the potential river restoration project in Arnos Park. Please join us on Saturday 20 July,  10am to 1pm, at the Arnos Road entrance. For more info, email: This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.

More information about the project is available on a website called GiGL:

Objectives

To re-establish natural geomorphological features within the Pymmes Brook, including the creation of natural instream features, natural banks, wet berms, potentially wetland scrapes and wet grassland i.e. reconnecting the river with the surrounding habitats, its floodplain.

Potential work:

The First step would be to carry out a feasibility study of the Pymmes though Arnos Park, including the surrounding landscape, defining the potential habitats which could be create and where. This would also give an idea of the cost and time scales involved. Depending on the outcomes of the feasibility study, a topography study of the area maybe needed if the its decide that wet scrapes and marshy areas should be created, thereby defining the works that would be needed to create these areas.

The NE Thames River restoration document also highlights this area as potential for full river restoration.

The works should include the removal of all impounding structures and artificial embankments. Once this has been completed there should be a low flow channel created which meanders its way along the natural course of the Pymmes (may not be the current course, decided by a topographical study). Outside, the low flow channel a peak flow course should be created, this should include wet berms and setback Flood risk managements to allow the river to naturally flood. These areas should contain back waters, wet berms, natural erosional cliff faces and wetland scrapes, which would significantly improve the biodiversity value of the area and the amenity value to local residents.



 
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Arnos Park river restoration project

24 Jul 2024 23:43 - 27 Jul 2024 12:27 #7204
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I went along to the engagement event in Arnos Park and found next to it an opposition group collecting signatures for a petition opposing the river restoration proposals. The chief objections appeared to be that it would break up the grassy areas in the park into smaller areas and this would conflict with the interests of dog walkers.

One man spent a considerable time running down essentially every project that Enfield Council has run over the past ten years or so, including cycle lanes, rain gardens, quieter neighbourhoods and - to my great surprise - the Firs Farm Wetlands, which he thought had ruined Firs Farm. At which point, you really have to question a person's judgement (if you don't know Firs Farm, go there and you'll see what I mean).

After the meeting the following was posted on the Pymmes BrookERS Facebook page (Pymmes BrookERS are a group of volunteers who work to improve the environment along the Brook):

It was great to see so many people at yesterday's engagement event in Arnos Park to hear the Enfield Watercourse team's proposal for a river restoration through the park.

It's heartening to see that people care about the park and want to give their views.

Less great was the level of misinformation, negativity + hostility directed at the proposal and sometimes, at us. This is unnecessary and upsetting.

Very often it's the negative voices which are loudest, but it doesn't always reflect the views of the community. We also heard from people who were interested in and liked the idea.

We are all volunteers who give 1000's of hours of our time to look after, clean up, monitor the health of and speak up for our river.

Rivers need our help more than ever. We made it clear that we support any work to restore the river to a more natural state and take it out of its dark, dank, concrete straitjacket to improve river health + biodiversity. We are respectful of the process and will continue to encourage people to speak to the Watercourses team and give their views so that we can reach a solution that works for the river, the park, and the community. We encourage everyone to keep an open mind + understand what the benefits to us all might be and help make positive change.

Reminding all members of this group that constructive comments are welcome, but fact-free, hostile or overly negative ones will be removed and the person making them will be excluded from the group without delay.

We will get best results for the park if we work collaboratively and to try to understand others' views. We are all neighbours, and this is our local park.


 
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Arnos Park river restoration project

25 Jul 2024 18:56 #7205
  • Roger Blows

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I don’t think dogs outnumbered human visitors to the Arnos Park presentation but there were a lot. They will enjoy jumping in and out of the proposed meandering new river. Council and Environment Agency officers made a persuasive case for a new, natural flow that would be environmentally friendly, in stark contrast to the concrete gully that edges the Park. As I understood things, no detailed scheme had yet been devised - the informal consultation was simply to …..er……test the waters, so to speak. It was disappointing to find opposition already, though I think the concerns about longer term maintenance of any new waterway might well have some force. I hope the Council will pursue this idea and if it’s well executed, we shall all - two legs, four legs, six legs and fins - benefit.

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Arnos Park river restoration project

02 Sep 2024 00:47 #7238
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In an article in the September issue of Enfield Dispatch, the Pymmes BrookERS explain the reasoning behind the proposals to restore the Brook to a more natural condition as it flows through Arnos Park, concluding:

"The [council's] watercourses team is currently considering the views of the community on its Arnos Park project. Whatever final form this scheme takes, let’s benefit from a major investment into the health and beauty of our local park and river."

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Arnos Park river restoration project

06 Sep 2024 16:47 #7240
  • Kevin O'Neill

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The Pymmes Brookers article on Enfield Dispatch says the re-meandering "will restore biodiversity through riverside planting and wetlands, allowing wildlife to thrive – which means more dragonflies, kingfishers, herons and fish!"

As someone who regularly walks around the lake in Grovelands, and the wetlands in Firs Farm and Broomfield Park, looking for wildlife to photograph, I think it is optimistic to expect birds like kingfishers or herons, who are very shy of humans, unless some relatively wide water courses are designed in. Grovelands has grebes and cormorants, although not as many in recent years. mainly because the lake is wide and there is an island far from humans and dogs. Broomfield's wetlands are a bit small for shy birds. Fish-eating birds will also need a reliable supply of fish. 

As a dog walker I see no reason why re-meandering the river should prevent enjoyable dog walking. A few strategically placed bridges will be needed to avoid cutting the park in half, however. 
 

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Arnos Park river restoration project

25 May 2025 19:21 #7364
  • Gary Boudier

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I do not understand what the Re-meandering of the river means. The river has run this course for over a hundred years. This can be easily seen by looking at local history maps. The brook ran through John Locks property and into the Walkers land. Initially running through the centre of the land, encroachment by housing on one side virtually comes up to the river making it look off-centre, but it isnt.
 

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Arnos Park river restoration project

26 May 2025 14:05 #7365
  • Basil Clarke

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Gary Boudier wrote (message 7364) :

I do not understand what the Re-meandering of the river means. The river has run this course for over a hundred years. 

A hundred years is just a blink of the eye in the history of a river. 

The straightening and burying of rivers and streams is now recognised as a mistake, just one of many made by governments, companies and people who believed that man had dominion over nature and there would be no consequences. We are paying the price for our former arrogance in the form of polluted rivers and air, nano particles of plastic everywhere in nature and in our bodies (they are even being found in our brains), psychological ill health caused by noise from aircraft and roads and separation from nature, the dire effects of over reliance on private cars (air pollution, deaths and injuries, road runoff from tyres, the huge contribution of petrol and diesel vehicles to greenhouse gas emissions), and of course the climate change that these emissions are causing, which, if we don't rein them back pretty damn quickly, will before that long bring about the demise of humanity.

For a detailed answer to Gary's question about why the brook should be remeandered, see this article on the Pymmes BrookERS website.

Pymmes Brook restoration in Arnos Park: FAQs

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Arnos Park river restoration project

29 May 2025 09:27 #7367
  • Wendy Berry

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Whilst I would not wish to take issue with any of Barry’s comments regarding the wider environmental issues, I must politely suggest that these have very little relevance to LBE’s ‘Arnos Park River Restoration’ project.  Gary Boudier is a recognised expert in local history, and his evidence regarding the initial location of the brook is compelling.  Relocating the brook to a location through the middle of Arnos Park would appear to have very little to  do with its historical position.There is a massive amount of opposition to this proposal, from Arnos Park users.  There is a group called the Arnos Park Preservation Society, supported by the Friends of Arnos Park, which is leading this opposition.  The philosophy of this group is ‘River Restoration, not River Relocation’. LBE invited everyone to attend a ‘Community Workshop’ to discuss their proposal, but rapidly withdrew this invitation, and stated it was ‘a mistake’! There was a considerable amount of interest among park users, who wished to attend. There will now be an engagement meeting some time in June, where only invited groups can attend.  I intend to be at this event, to represent people with protected characteristics, under the 2010 Equality Act, specifically the elderly, women, and disabled people.  Any attempt to relocate the brook through the centre of Arnos Park, with all the surrounding, unmaintained vegetation, would particularly affect these groups.  And yes, our views are based on fact, as we have visited a number of other sites, where LBE has made similar changes.LBE will face a massive amount of opposition from park users and local people, if they try to make this significant change to the nature and purpose of our beloved, unique, and beautiful Arnos Park.

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