Forum topic: 'We really do have a neighbourhood' – the effect of the Fox Lane LTN
'We really do have a neighbourhood' – the effect of the Fox Lane LTN
Karl Brown
08 May 2021 06:26 #5982
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In late 2020 an Independent journalist wrote a letter critical of LTN’s. The same journalist had previously written about the benefit of a 1930’s installed LTN plus road filters, but no matter. The zoom-out to explore is his mentioned personal journey, disrupted by the Fox Lane LTN and its impact on local shops.
Living in an effective LTN behind Tatem Park, bounded by the main roads of Hedge Lane and the A10, the mentioned journey to the small shopping parade at Southgate Cherry Tree is roughly two miles. Pre LTN a reasonable assumption would be a (car) journey including Hedge Lane / Bourne and then utilising the Southgate 5 Ways bypass of Amberley / Mall, or alternatively Greenway / Meadway, to reach the Cherry Tree; both residential routes being in the million plus vehicles pa category and long-time full of resulting unhappy residents.
Post LTN, the journey would mean remaining on the Bourne until 5 Ways and then High street to reach the Chery Tree; a little longer, all on main roads and adding to traffic weight to the 5 Ways junction in particular.
Let’s ignore that there are 3 of Enfield’s 4 District Town centres closer than the Cherry Tree parade, as well as a plethora of local centres, as well as home delivery options, and instead focus on the transport hierarchy:
Walking. At a little under two miles, and with an option to enjoy Hazelwood Rec on the way, it’s a distance many would see as perfectly viable;
Cycling. Certainly a valid distance, although the absence of infrastructure in parts may hinder less confident cyclists;
Public transport. The W6 hopper provides a near door to door opportunity;
Private vehicle. Pre and post LTN routes are already mentioned. An alternate would be the movement of one planter and open up an alternate 5 Ways bypass along Oakfield Road to satisfy recent safety concerns related to low traffic levels on that particular street.
The spectrum is from libertarian, drive where you want to irrespective of others, to what about the others and so restricting where you can drive, right through to non-drive options. The Healthy Streets agenda of London’s Transport Strategy – and the investment that goes with it – is focused on this latter range.
The point here is not to point a finger at a journalist who has argued both ways as suits a purpose at the time but to try and draw out from one example journey, which is one of countless equivalent journeys going on all the time, the personal choices we all have before us for many of our journeys and how they may impact others. Within that, where selfishness and inconsiderate behaviour may lie arguably moves to a different orbit.
The letter in question is attached for completeness.
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'We really do have a neighbourhood' – the effect of the Fox Lane LTN
Georgina Kafetzis
09 May 2021 01:57 #5984
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'We really do have a neighbourhood' – the effect of the Fox Lane LTN
Adrian Day
10 May 2021 15:46 #5985
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Standing in Hoxton East & Shoreditch: Niall Crowley, endorsed by Lawrence Fox, writer for Spiked online & opinion pieces such as 'In defence of gentrification' received just 7.8% of the total votes. In comparison; the Greens received 16% and the Labour winner 53%. Candidate Clair Battaglino, on Twitter as 'Future Councillor' and ardent campaigner to remove LTNs received a mere 3.8% of total votes. The Labour candidate elected received 63%.
In neighbouring Islington, anti-LTN candidates also failed spectacularly. In St Peter's ward by-election, Jody Grabber, with the single policy of removing LTNs and who faces court charges of drug possession & violence next month, came last. Also in Islington, Bunhill ward anti-LTN candidate Martyn Perks came last. In Highbury West ward candidates of the parties promoting LTNs (Labour & Greens) received 73% of vote. Let the people decide!
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'We really do have a neighbourhood' – the effect of the Fox Lane LTN
Andy Barker
22 May 2021 11:08 #5990
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On Wednesday the 19th a member of the One Community faction posted the following (of which this is a verbatim extract): “THE TRAFFIC ORDER APPEARS TO BE INVALID. THE CASH COW AT THE TOO OF CONWAY ROAD IS ADJACENT TO 111 FOX LANE, NOT 11 FOX LANE. I PLAN TO DRIVE THROUGH THE CONWAY ROAD (CLOSURE) POINT REPEATEDLY BETWEEN 3 AND 4PM today. ALL WELCOME TO JOIN, IN THEIR CARS OR JUST CHEERING FROM THE SIDELINES. TIME CHOSEN TO COINCIDE WITH SCHOOL RUN.”
This is one of the most thoughtless and boneheadedly stupid ideas so far from the anti-LTN faction. I understand that the Head Teacher of St Monicas had to send out an urgent message to warn parents of the proposal, and that the Police were eventually involved.
Do I take it that the anti's have now decided to move away from mere vitriol and vandalism towards the much more dangerous scenario of targeting children?
As of yet, I have seen no denouncements or apologies for the proposed actions from anyone, including the Residents' Association .
A sorry state of affairs indeed.
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'We really do have a neighbourhood' – the effect of the Fox Lane LTN
Adrian Day
22 May 2021 12:49 #5991
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'We really do have a neighbourhood' – the effect of the Fox Lane LTN
Nigel Gibbs
22 Feb 2022 20:49 #6388
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