Forum topic: Deadline for responding to 20mph consultation brought forward - now 7th September
It's time for twenty!
07 Aug 2025 00:22 #7418- Basil Clarke
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Consultation response deadline changed back to 21st September
Enfield Council have changed the deadline for responding to the consultation back to the original date: 21st September.
Enfield residents have an opportunity to help reduce deaths and injuries on the borough's roads by expressing their support for the council's proposals for many more roads to have 20mph speed limits. The evidence from 20mph schemes in many other parts of London and throughout Wales is completely clear: lower speed limits save lives and cut serious injuries.
Some statistics published in the flyer that went through people's letterboxes last month. If you didn't get one, you can download it from the council website.
A few weeks back leaflets were posted through letterboxes throughout the borough with information about Enfield Council's proposals to introduce 20mph speed limits on a much wider basis than at present: in essence, on most side streets and on main roads where they pass through important town centres.
It's certainly high time that Enfield caught up with the many London boroughs that have introduced widespread 20mph limits - after all, in the league table recently published by Healthy Streets Scorecard, we're very near the bottom when it comes to the casualty rate for pedestrians: 28th out of the 32 boroughs.
Quite apart from the human misery that deaths and serious injuries cause, there's a strong economic case for bringing in measures that will reduce the frequency and severity of crashes: the huge amount of money and of police and health service time that is spent dealing the consequences.
The benefits of 20mph - summary of evidence (click here to read a text version)
The graphic above summarises the benefits that have been measured in parts of London where 30mph limits have been reduced to 20mph. The likelihood of crashes is greatly reduced because drivers have more time to react to danger, and if a pedestrian is hit by a car doing 20 rather than 30, they are five times more likely to survive. The arguments that lower speeds mean more congestion and more pollution have been disproved, and as for people who claim that they "can't drive" below 21mph, why do we even let them get behind the wheel of a car in the first place? Plus, the pleasanter and safer street environment encourages more walking, wheeling and cycling, all of them beneficial for both physical and mental health.
In addition to the London data, there has been a striking reduction in deaths and injuries as the result of a countrywide move from 30 to 20 in Wales, as described in this article. The author points out that even though a lot of drivers in Wales don't stick strictly to the new 20mph limit, they are now driving slower than they used to and those few miles an hour less are paying dividends - in human lives:
The reduction of 4.2mph from 29mph in July 2023 to 25mph in July this year would be expected to reduce casualties on these roads by 25.2%. The actual reduction was even better at 26.2%.
Source: The Will Hayward Newsletter: Turns out the 20mph limit was great idea!
The council's move has been greeted warmly by Better Streets for Enfield campaigners, though they are critical of the omission of some shopping areas on main roads - for instance, while the council is proposing 20mph for Green Lanes through Palmers Green, they plan to keep 30mph for the whole of Green Lanes as it runs through Winchmore Hill.
Personally, I would like to see 20mph on all roads that have buses running along them, apart from the A406 and A10. The reason: either on their outward journey or on their way back home, bus passengers have to cross the road, and they are much safer if the traffic is travelling at 20mph rather than 30mph - and this applies even when there is a handy zebra crossing.
So, if you value human lives, cleaner air and quieter streets more than the possibility of arriving at the next traffic light a quarter of a minute earlier, then use this consultation to tell the council!
Tell the council what you think about the proposals
To find out more, visit letstalk.enfield.gov.uk/20mph or scan the QR code (paper copies are available at libraries and Enfield Civic Centre).
You have until Sunday 21st September to let the council have your views.
- Take the survey at letstalk.enfield.gov.uk/20mph
- Email the council at
- Write to the council at ATTN Journeys and Places, Enfield Council, Silver Street EN1 3XA
Each household should have received one copy of the brochure with the proposals, but that doesn't mean that the council only wants one reply per household - everyone is entitled to have their separate say. If you're using the online survey to submit your views, each person will need to set up their own account with Let's Talk Enfield.
Links
20mph project page on the Let's Talk Enfield website
Download a copy of the flyer that was distributed to households
Map of Enfield Council's initial proposals (July 2025)
20 is plenty for Enfield – you can make it happen (Better Streets for Enfield website 19 July 2025)
20mph limits in London linked to sharp fall in road injuries and deaths, new report finds (European Transport Safety Council 26 May 2025)
Powerful new long-term TfL research shows 20mph speed limits save lives on London’s roads (Transport for London 21 May 2025)
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It's time for twenty!
07 Aug 2025 08:37 #7419- Neil Littman
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It's time for twenty!
08 Aug 2025 11:12 #7420- JuliusCaf
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The 30 mph is broken every day on Bush Hill, Bush Hill Road and London Road, plus many others I bet!
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It's time for twenty!
09 Aug 2025 13:45 #7421- Yiannis Chronakis
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The main concern moved from doubting the speed limit to complaining about enforcement. And there is almost no enforcement yet the speeds dropped significantly. Maybe not at 20 but at 25 but before that speeds were 30 to 40. This will not tackle the racing and antisocial driving culture that is rampant in Enfield.
I still drive with 20 in Enfield in all roads but those at the borders of the borough and of course dual carriageways and it feels much easier. In terms of time, it makes next to zero difference. Maybe with 30mph you will gain about 30 seconds from Palmers green to Enfield town but it does not worth it. Since I moved to Enfield there were already two people died in A105 and one was an 8 year old kid. Totally avoidable deaths that nobody's 30 seconds worth it.
We should give this a good try and all of us ask ourselves what is the objective gain we are having from higher speeds where people live, shop and go out as opposed to the calmer proposal.
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It's time for twenty!
14 Aug 2025 07:48 #7428- Neil Littman
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It's time for twenty!
19 Aug 2025 19:00 - 19 Aug 2025 19:14 #7429- Basil Clarke
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I have replied to the survey but just wanted to add a couple of comments here because I think the full picture of road accidents across the borough is more complex than the Summary of Evidence shows. I have no issue with 20mph in built up areas, near schools or many residential side streets and I live in one which was designated 20mph over ten years ago but it hasn't been any deterrent to speeding. I have had cars go past my home at up to 50mph and it's only been sheer luck no accidents have happened so far but looking at the stats over the past few years the two roads with the most accidents are the North Circular A406 and the A10 and at least half the pedestrian (am not counting car crashes which actually involve more fatalities than pedestrians overall in the UK) fatalities happened there.
A new study published by Transport for London (TfL) has shown that the introduction of 20mph speed limits and zones on local authority-managed roads in London between 1989 and 2013 led to significant reductions in collisions, injuries, and deaths, particularly among children and vulnerable road users.
The report, based on data from 157 individual 20mph schemes and a comparative analysis using a control group of all borough roads, provides strong evidence of the benefits of reducing speed limits in urban areas. The findings support the wider roll-out of lower speed limits as a core component of Vision Zero — London’s plan to eliminate road deaths and serious injuries by 2041.
Across all the schemes studied, the results were consistently positive:
Total collisions fell by 35% (compared to 12% in the control group)
All casualties fell by 36%
Fatal or serious injuries fell by 34%
Child casualties dropped by 46%, and children killed by 75%
Among people walking, cycling, or riding motorcycles, killed or seriously injured (KSI) figures were reduced by 28%
Yes, there are still some people who drive at 50 in 20 or 30mph zones, and we need to stamp that out on the way to reducing deaths to zero, as has been achieved in Copenhagen. But the overall figure speaks for itself and nothing you say disproves it.
As for deaths and injuries on the A406 and A10, which, as you say is where most crashes occur (not "accidents" - the police no longer use that weasal wording), that just goes to prove the point that the higher the speed limit, the higher the toll in terms of deaths and injuries, especially on urban roads.
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Deadline for responding to 20mph consultation brought forward - now 7th September
26 Aug 2025 15:04 - 26 Aug 2025 15:13 #7432- PGC Webmaster
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The deadline for responding to the 20mph consultation has been brought forward by a fortnight and is now Sunday 7th September. The new date was advertised on the Journeys & Places website as follows:
Enfield Council are now looking to progress the first phase of Safer Street for Enfield: 20mph speed limits sooner than initially planned. This means that we will be undertaking the statutory consultation on the draft Traffic Order for Phase 1 from late September. In order for us to do this and consider the responses we have received from the current period of community engagement, we will now be closing the survey on Sunday 7 September 2025.
Thank you to everyone who has shared their comments via the survey or email to us since we launched this opportunity on 16 July. We look forward to hearing from more residents about their views on the proposed 20mph plan by Sunday 7 September.
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Deadline for responding to 20mph consultation has been changed back to 21st September
10 Sep 2025 19:36 #7440- PGC Webmaster
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