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Question 1. What do think is good about the area?

Very  little. We have a mini-Waitrose. Store 21 is Ok. My optician is still  there.

Question 2. What do you think is less good about the area?

 Everything, now that the old  shops have gone. We used to have a large and interesting department store  – Evans &Davis; Grouts; fishmongers, butchers; Tesco, Sainsbury; a  bookshop; a good wine merchant. All gone. No pleasure in wandering around  down there now. It looks so scruffy. It smells of bacon fat, or did today.   It feels cheap and run down.  People playing loud, horrible music from cars doesn’t help the ambience.  Too many cafes and pubs. Not enough interesting shops.

Question 3. What would you like to see to improve the area?

If it turned into something  like Muswell Hill, with upmarket, independent shops, lots of variety,  smarter shop fronts, something interesting to look at other than Pound  Shops, charity shops and scruffy pubs. One  more traffic island between Boots and the Devonshire Road zebra. More  planting. Trees. Shrubs in pots – azaleas for bursts of colour. Roses with  big thorns to discourage vandalism/theft. Or perhaps these could go in the  two permanent raised planting areas. Window boxes on the railings. Small  blossoming trees on the Triangle.  

Question 4a. Specific aspects – traffic

This  has never bothered me. There are places to cross easily, but if I choose  to cross between them, I can generally manage. Quite often traffic stops  to allow me to get across in the main shopping area close to the Triangle.  Though not the case in stretch between station and  the park gates.  But I have for 40+ years crossed without problem just beyond the gates  towards the lights at top of park as there is always a clear space outside  rush hours. There are stretches where it does go too fast, so you  have to be careful, which is only sensible, but I am not a very old person  – they get very scared by traffic when they can’t judge speed or can’t  make eye contact with drivers. Traffic  speeds up between the park zebra and PG station - there should be traffic  calming measures there. It's dangerous. I wish people would not play their  nasty music so loud.   There  is much more traffic and congestion in Muswell Hill  – it’s a larger area, there are many buses coming through and using the  central bus garage, the traffic jams are larger and longer, though it does  not speed. More difficult to cross the road. Comparatively, Palmers Green feels – as both a  pedestrian and a driver – easier  to negotiate, less congested, fewer traffic fumes. And  yet, Muswell Hill is a far nicer shopping/relaxing area.

Question 4b. Specific aspects – parking

): Difficult  if you need disabled parking.  We usually walk or use the bus. If needing the car for unloading for the  charity shops, it is impossible to find a spot nearby. Almost impossible  to park near the Post Office. If shopping in Morrisons we use their car  park. At the moment you can park in the library if using it. You need  disabled parking for the library – I used to take my mother. You can’t  park near the doctors’ surgeries in Old Park Road and near Hedge Lane. A  nightmare for older and disabled people.

Question 4c. Specific aspects – clutter

Hate  those terrible advertising things on stalks. They are ugly and no one  wants to see advertising everywhere. Hate this year's Christmas ‘tree.’  Can’t bear all the studs all over the pavements, makes it difficult  to walk without turning an ankle or losing balance. My elderly mother  couldn’t go out to post a letter because she couldn’t cross the studs even  using her walking frame, without losing her balance. Don’t know why they  have to be all across the pavement near the Triangle. I  like the railings, they add a certain formality to an otherwise  raggedy area, they are smart, they have a retro feel. As I don't need to  dash across roads they don't hinder my progress. They could have flower  boxes attached to them. I  think the old finger posts have been removed - '12 miles to London' - they  were fun. Would like to see those back. Perhaps they're still there, I  haven't looked recently.

Question 4d. Specific aspects – look of the shops/architecture

Ghastly.  Unrelieved gloom. Some of the old shop fronts remain, but they are not  celebrated by the occupants.

Question 4e. Specific aspacts – type and range of shops

Currently  useless and cheap – Needs to go upmarket. Surely this will depend on the  available custom in the area. We  used to have a large department store – Evans &Davis; Grouts;  fishmongers, butchers; Tesco, Sainsbury; a bookshop; a good wine merchant.  All gone. Should be like Muswell Hill, with upmarket, independent shops,  lots of variety, smarter shop fronts, something interesting to look at  other than Pound Shops, charity shops and scruffy pubs.  

Question 4f. Specific aspects – amount and use of pavement space

No  problems with this, though if too many cafes put out tables it will make  it harder in the narrower areas. Not pleasant to have to walk through all  the smoke when people sit outside cafes.

Question 4g. Specific aspects – the Triangle public space

Currently ghastly. We mourn our old tree.

Question 4h. Specific aspects – Greenery

There are  public planting spaces which could be 100% more attractive if properly  planted with attractive and not merely utilitarian perennials. Possibly a  few bulbs and annuals included. These used to be gardened twice yearly  with annuals.  Azaleas –  evergreen with a burst of spring colour. Smallish blossoming trees in the  planters on the Triangle central area. Window boxes on the Public toilet  railings. . Trees in the wide areas of pavement towards Hedge Lane. Shrubs  in pots – azaleas for bursts of colour. Roses with big thorns to  discourage vandalism/theft. Or perhaps these could go in the two permanent  raised planting areas. New trees with blossom and autumn colour. Window  boxes hooked on the railings, planted with annuals - which they have in  Muswell Hill.

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