Forum topic: Six new trees for Palmers Green Triangle
Six new trees for Palmers Green Triangle
Karl Brown
06 Dec 2017 17:09 #3413
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Six new trees for Palmers Green Triangle
Darren Edgar
12 Dec 2017 15:12 #3422
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I can add use as a ped now too and still cannot find fault. Easy to use.
Stop, look, listen. Then cross. That's been the advice for decades and it stands true here still. For those less bold/able, use the myriad of crossing assistance like Karl says.
Six new trees for Palmers Green Triangle
Joe Mark O'Connor
04 Jan 2018 16:17 #3477
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When residents say to each other what has happened to Palmers Green and other local areas that have been left to turned into a poor miserable state as those supposed to be managing our areas to beautify and to encourage and support shopowners who say they feel unsupported by Enfield Council to help make their shops into a more inviting and welcoming experience to boost trade and make Palmers Green a thriving town centre at least then people will shop more on our high streets and less online so will not end up a ghost town, people in local authorities are not understanding the concept when residents and shopowners get frustrated and all they want is to better their community and feel proud where they live and that is to improve the area, and that is to stop being so righteous because your able and to care more about those that are struggling.
Were all going to grow old one day....so lets be kind to one another and that will hopefully bring a happier Britain...because as it stands at the moment everything is looking bleak....
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Darren Edgar
04 Jan 2018 16:53 #3479
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PG high street looks nicer and more welcoming than it did 2 years ago. What makes the high street bleak is nail salons, bookies, charity shops and the Alfred Herring. Not the recent street realm improvements.
As for the disasterous high step, I'll have a look tonight when I cycle past. I don't remember seeing one any more than I can remember there ever being a direct crossing to Iceland.
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Darren Edgar
05 Jan 2018 10:05 #3480
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More importantly, looking at google maps, there was never a direct crossing to Iceland. The kerb outside remains raised as it has always been and the barriers remain in situ.
Iceland is no less accessible now than it has ever been therefore the example forwarded, especially to tug on the heartstrings highlighting elderly and disabled, is entirely spurious and I expect soley created to discredit an otherwise good scheme by someone with a predisposed dislike to it.
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Colin Younger
05 Jan 2018 10:24 #3481
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I have a vague feeling that the new lay out makes it more difficult but I can't recall why, though it's not to do with kerb height.
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Darren Edgar
05 Jan 2018 11:18 #3482
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Have made that bus stop dash following train failure a few times though - totally ignored any crossing availbility as normally to stressed about the delay at that point!
Comparing new and old, recognising the formal crossings applicable for the less nimble, there is no change to usability. The example given is an extremely minor one, and actually just an example of the pettiness EMH is up against.
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Karl Brown
05 Jan 2018 14:16 #3483
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Based around the pre and post triangle traffic islands we have moved from two pedestrian crossings, a zebra plus this pedestrian island, to three fully illuminated pedestrian crossings. Desire lines might have been compromised slightly but I would personally see it as currently inherently more pedestrian-safe.
The island was of course occasionally more of a death trap than pedestrian helpful ...